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  • pappu
    07-01 08:26 PM
    We do see such threads on the forum occasionally where the employee is being cheated/asked to sign a contract/is not being paid on bench/employer is threatening etc etc... There are several instances where members have posted negative comments about consulting companies and how employees are unhappy working for them.

    Is this really true?

    I want to understand the reasons why people are not filing lawsuits against such companies yet? Why are we not reporting them to DOL and USCIS? Especially after filing I485 and expiry of 6 months, people are in a better position to file lawsuits against such employers.

    IV can help only if people are willing to be helped and ready to take action.

    If this system needs to be cleansed, then why aren't we doing it?

    Let me tell you one thing, "You've got guts, buddy", Congrats on the bold move. not many people dare to do that.

    Can he do so? - Theoratically yes, practically: highly unlikely.
    if he is a typical consulting guy with less than 50 emps, he won't do it, because such employers almost always make "adjustments" that puts them in extremely weak spot during such law suits. here are some examples:
    - a guy was laid off, his new employer sent him on a project even before filing for his H1 transfer
    -many consulting companies do not pay salary while the guy is on "bench"
    - they many times knowingly/unknowingly commit tax/accounting fraud or regulatory mistakes that can cause serius consequences

    - a friend of mine was interrviewed by a client and when the result was positive, his new would be employer called him at a McDonalds and asked him to sign the contract right there (within 30 minute of meeting), and my friend did. Now most people won't see anything wrong in here. but a lawyer told me that my friend was not given enough time to read/understand a legal document and to talk to a lawyer ideally enough time is about 2 weeks. How many small consulting companies give 2 weeks when the interview at client is clear?

    In your case, the end client is not your employer's client. Ask him to show the contract between him and the end client.

    bottom line of the story is: there are many defenses that one can play and win the case and/or even put the employer in trouble. That's why most small employers don't do much beyond sending a lawyer's notice (just to scare you enough to write down a check). A real nasty guy can even go one step further and file a law suit only to withdraw it later if you decide to fiight it.

    Good luck buddy!

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    05-24 01:03 PM

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  • eb3India
    03-08 11:03 AM
    I second everything logic has said,

    Also it is really funny and I use to think it's just me, but I am glad someone else is also experinced the same,

    Myself, I was able to file I-485 and renewed EAD 3 times, which means my wife is working from past three years, I have changed job using AC-21 twice and my salary is increased and have better job, which means I am not too much worried about getting GC, but I still contribute to IV and call lawmakers many times.

    The FEAR I see among many people is really pathatic, I know couple of friends does not even want to talk to me on phone about this matter thinking that some one might be listening,

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  • Tito_ortiz
    01-08 02:04 AM
    I already saw a complaint on that 'people representing special interest groups from foreign nations may be flooding the system with messages and votes which may not be in interest of Americans, for whom the Obama administration is supposed to work for."

    That said, let's continue to send messages and make our voice heard anyway! Good work folks!

    I put mine in, let's go for more than 100 and don't forget to "bump" this message so it stays at the top!



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  • JazzByTheBay
    07-17 10:06 PM

    Of course, now we risk alienating the "undocumented worker" community, but is that such a big deal given we're legal and struggling and hoping that America does the right thing to get us out of this gray area... ?

    On a different note, I can't wait to see what an EAD and AP looks like. When does the clock start ticking? Is it 90 days or 180 days? :)

    I so want a vacation! :)


    Lets ask Core not to just go with the temporary fix of July visa bulliten.
    We might apply for EAD and AP but what if they throw our papers some where and repeat the same thing.
    This time they will be very careful in issuing visa bulliten

    In future very slow progression in visa dates...adjudicating cases very slowly always stating that due to july visa bulliten we have lots of cases ...we will not be able to do anything until we sort ou...blah blah...

    This is not the fix
    We should be firm with our goals...

    Lets come up with some ideas....
    Lets not ask what to do...lets think and come up with an idea...and then we shall decide if it works or not...
    When some one first suggested flower campaign everyone took it as a was not implemented before some one sent the flowers and showed the receipt number...

    I was following core for a long time...this the biggest response i have ever seen from the members...

    Lets continue it...

    My idea ...lets not just accept the temporary fix...we should fight the congress until they come up with a plan of fixing the GC issue.

    The congress talks about fixing illegal immigration..Lets ask them to fix the legal immigration first.

    Unless we are really strong about it...nothing can be accomplished..

    They cant fix the existing legal system but they are ready with the plans of fixing illegal immigration...of course it failed but still they had big impact...

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    01-31 01:27 AM


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  • waitingGC
    01-31 12:34 PM
    What plannet r u from that u donno abt desi companies and LC sell ? myself a human from earth :-)
    desi companies r indian companies and they sell LC openly , Eb2 pre approved labor has a rate approx 20k USD .

    desi companies sell H1b also , u pay money and they will get it for u , see for example .

    I am not in the IT industry so I have no idea about these Desi companies till today. If they sell EB2 LC for 20k USD, how come there are still so many people waiting instead of buying a GC?

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  • logiclife
    02-13 01:45 PM
    I have tried to convince people (Indians and some Chinese) to join IV. People don't. They don't believe IV has the capability to get anything done. A lot of people don't care if IV existed or not. They believe that Congress will get to it when it deems right. Core members were asking a few weeks ago if that is the message people are sending. Yes it is.

    Yeah. We know that. A lot of people think IV cannot get anything done. IV never promised that we will cause CIR to happen. We never promised that we will cause SKIL to happen. They all happen, mostly on their own. IV's role is to add amendments when they come and remove provisions that hurt us. We did that successfully last year by getting the hard country cap removed. No one else was interested in removing the hard cap. It took a lot of co-ordination and lot of trips and lot of hard work to get it done. If that harmful provision had stayed, then the new quota of 650,000 in S 2611 would have been useless. People forget achivements of IV or think that it was negligible. Retrogression would have been exacerbated with hard country cap.

    And this year, if CIR or SKIL bill come, we will be able to achive much much more. We are in much better shape and its hard for me to convince you of that unless I divulge details. That I cannot do. Its up to you if you can trust IV core on that.

    You are reading the message right. I don't want IV to die. I am suggesting people with leadership skills to come forward and get SOME F**KING RESULTS. That is what is needed. It is do or die situation.

    Yes, we know that your situation and a lot of other people's situation is do-or-die situation. We know that lot of visitors and members are being squeezed by their situation (exploiting employer, travel restrictions, naggin H4 spouse, no wage growth, no job mobility, no promotions) and that will end only when they get out of H1 and get GC. Its actually the do-or-die situation that prompted the creation of IV.

    I am not a leader and I don't want to pretend that I am. I ask others who are not to step down and encourage the right people to take leadership positions.

    That's what it seemed from your original post. And nothing wrong with that. If you are up to the job then you are welcome. We already have state-chapters and people are not actively participating in that. Last week, on California's state chapter conf call, 2 people came. If you take leadership, you need to do things locally like meeting with other people in your city, forming a group of 4-5 people and going and meeting your congressman. And if you want to be in IV core, then you have to call us on the phone number listed and we can see if you can add any value to core by doing things we routinely do, like content prep, website maint, travelling to DC for meetings, talking to other orgs etc. If you are up to the job, sure, why not. Anyone who considers themselves fit for IV core, please call us. We really do need help as we are overwhelmed.

    I am a very dissatisfied member of IV. Are you satisfied with IV so far? Why doesn't everyone raise these questions? What has caused us to fail so far?

    I am dissatisfied too with the results. Its not like I am a happy camper on H1. What has caused us to fail? The same thing that has caused us to fail last year, the same thing that caused industry to fail in getting H1 quota raised, the same thing that caused failure of Universities to get F4 visa for masters degree holders. And these guys have lobbying budget in millions? Why do you think they failed?

    Whatever caused their failure, caused our failure too. In DC, issues are not debated and legislated based on morality and merits of those issues. They are taken up based on contemporary politics and other factors like lobbying, public attention, elections and political parties.

    For example: Last year, they debated a constitutional amendment to ban flag burned in USA. And spent precious time of congress on debating it. How to you think that would have helped anyone? Even it had passed, what was the merit of the issue? Flag burned mostly happens outside USA. In USA people rarely burn US flags. So banning flag burning in USA is like banning metric system. Its meaningless. Yet, they spent time on it.

    Read papers, read articles from other lobbying orgs and learn something. Legislations dont happen on their own because the issues carry weight and have merits. Merits have nothing to do with congressional action.

    To quote a bestselling economist Steven Levitt :
    "If morality is how we would like the world to work, economy is how the world actually works".

    Same thing applies to US congress. They dont set their timetable of bills based on morality and merits. There are other factors.


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  • arrarrgee
    07-17 02:47 PM
    Couldnt agree more on this...this i guess is the perfect time...I began to look at the July VB fiasco in a positive way...if it wasnt for it we wouldn't have gotten ppl who mattered to look at the legal guys

    I understand DREAM act is not related to EB issues. What I meant was, just like how DREAM act is being added to an unrelated bill, we should work on adding things like 'unlimited STEM visas' and 'recapture unused numbers' to other bills and get them passed.

    IV core will need lot of support to do accomplish this, hope at least some of the folks who got into IV because of the july fiasco contribute funds.

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  • ndialani
    11-03 04:02 PM
    1 week after getting approved, I got the card in mail today.

    All the work that I put in the last 2 month to get my file picked finally comes to an end here. It's good to see that people are proactively calling USCIS and following up on their cases.

    Good luck to all EB2 folks who are current and waiting and to all the EB3 folks, hope you guys become current soon.

    Keep the faith...

    Congrats Caliguy!!!
    I ve been following your case !
    How many times did you call IO ?
    First time i called ,IO(Male voice) said my I140 shows EB3 catagory
    Today , i called again, IO (Female-Janet), she said ,other officer didnt know what to look for , your application is Preadj. and in line to be assigned to an IO for processing.
    I dont know , whom to believe.
    Any suggestions???


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  • she81
    01-31 01:40 PM
    Voted twice for both the questions and also urged half a dozen colleagues to do the same.

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  • NKR
    03-13 02:13 PM
    Yes! on IV you are supposed to say only good things about IV (though IV is "grass-root" non-profit) but no free speech here :confused:
    You are only supposed to smell and sense good things about IV and hence write only good ... but god-forbid if you write truth then IV-watchers will try to ruin your "image" by giving RED dots (IV-mileage points) and make you feel bad-guy :rolleyes:

    Dude, it's not red dots, it's red squares.


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  • go2roomshare
    02-01 12:34 PM
    I agree with the initial post, it is mostly true , i know people who did such a way, ofcourse most of indians who worked for a indian consulting company know about it.

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  • MetteBB
    06-16 09:59 AM
    eh? :huh:


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  • gk_2000
    04-18 03:57 PM
    Hearty congratulations! Your story is most heart warming

    Mind mentioning your degree/qualifications? I am looking out for people like me who have successfully ported ...


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  • tampacoolie
    07-30 08:38 PM
    Company tax returns can only show the NET INCOME . You need an Audited Financial Statement prepared by a CPA to show NET ASSETS

    Box F in 1065 form has TOTAL ASSETS field. Form 1065 is for the Partnership firm. Why not other companies tax return will not have this field?. I just got an RFE on my I-140 requesting 2006 tax return.


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  • mbartosik
    07-19 09:47 AM
    Imagine if Uncle Sam held an auction to allow you to submit I485 EAD AP, what would you have bid for the right to submit?

    Maybe $640, $6,400, or even $64,000?

    If Uncle Sam charged a fee to submit now rather than waiting for another year or two or three... What would you have paid to submit I485 and get EAD AP AC21?

    Alternatively, how much are you going to benefit from EAD AP or AC21?

    AC21 -- maybe ability to move jobs and get a few thousand $ pay rise?
    AC21 -- maybe not going to the back of the queue -- really worth thousands!
    EAD for you and spouse -- maybe a week of salary for someone that could not previously work?
    AP -- how much is it worth not to have to waste time and money renewing H1B at an embassy. That's at least a few days of time you don't have to waste (and time is money).

    How much will you save from filing under the old fee structure? At least a few hundreds.

    Now use that as a guideline for what you are going to contribute to IV.

    There are still problems ahead for most....
    * retrogression
    * BECs for unluck some
    * name checks (I personally know someone that it took almost 2 years for).

    IV is now the most credible organization there to help get these issues addressed. So let's hand over the $.

    (me about $1K so far plus time)

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  • caliguy
    10-29 12:11 PM
    For all of you who have send me a pvt. message asking me how to reach IO @ TSC, here are the steps:

    1) Call Customer Service @ 1 800 375 5283
    2) Continue in english, hit 1
    3) To check the status, hit 2
    4) Know your receipt number, hit 1
    5) Enter Receipt number, and then for SRC, hit 1
    6) Confirm Receipt Number, hit 1
    7) You will now hear the status of your case. At this point, hit 3 to "Report a problem".

    Here is the trick - now you will hear 4 options. I believe # 3 is "If your case is outside the processing time..." and # 4 is for "If you have filed several cases and have received a decision on....". You want to hit # 4 and you will be connected to an IO at TSC.

    Just a word of caution: You will be talking to an Immigration Officer @ TSC so please be very polite. Some officers will tell you that they cannot give you any information, or you should be calling Customer Service number, simply say 'Thank You' and hang up. It might take days/weeks before you reach an IO who would be willing to help.

    Again, the sequence is:
    Call the customer service number.
    Press 1, 2, 1, Enter Receipt Number, Hit 1 for SRC, Hit 1 to confirm RN, 3 to report a problem, 4 to connect to an officer @ TSC.

    Also, you do not have to wait to hear the complete message. You can be connected to an IO in less than 30 seconds (trust me, you will get good at it). I had the print out of steps sitting in my car and I would go to my car every 2 hours and call TSC. Keep a log of when you called and who the officer was (if the officer tells you their name, note it down cuz next time you can simply hang up if the same officer is on the line).


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  • eager_immi
    01-31 01:46 PM
    I agree it is a completly unfair practice and i am glad it is stopped


    that was the idea behind it, but when a feature is being misused and exploited that needs to be plugged. If microsoft needed a genius they can bring that person in on EB1 or H1B or B1 visa. there are many other avenues.
    How do u feel that a person who arrives in US yesterday, buys a labor, gets his GC within a year while thousands of us are waiting patiently.
    It is an unfair practice and should have been stopped long time back.
    It's never too late though.
    Selling labors became the business model of manyof these companies.
    Are they doing anything illegal? NO.
    Are they doing something ethical? NO
    So, the law has to change to give everyone a fair chance.

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    i really dont know how to make it look realistic, if you havent noticed (which if you really didnt then i would be laughing my head off) i am not a well trained PS person.

    05-24 01:06 PM
    What the hell is wrong with these "law makers". As if we are not already being fleeced, they want to do it even more!!:mad: