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  • Leo07
    11-06 12:26 PM
    Thanks for the post.

    I see no good intentions from the text...he's just disappointed that his bill did not pass and want to piggy back on a bill that has good chances.

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  • ganguteli
    04-28 11:01 AM
    Question to IV core.
    Can't we turn Mr Durbin to our side since IL has a large Indian community ?

    Define which Indian community?
    Gujratis who own motels and shops and will want more family immigration vs H1B


    Indians who are now citizens. They will want less Indians to reduce competition for their jobs or for their children.


    Desi consulting owners : less said the better

    Desi H1b, students EAD etc...
    They are a scared lot anyways and only worry about their immigration status and making dollars. Go tell them about IV if you can?

    So tell which Indian community you are talking about?

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  • Alabaman
    09-13 06:08 PM
    well skill bill will help ppl with MS???
    what about the ppl with BS and having umptin years of experience???
    should we still be in soup:eek:

    Invest in an MS (even if its part time) and help urself:)

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  • conchshell
    08-13 06:24 PM
    please ignore this thread and let it die its own natural death. There is no point discussing all this again and again.


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  • pmb76
    08-14 08:59 PM
    I agree with Chanakya. Gave you green.

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  • qasleuth
    03-11 12:35 PM
    How does insulting your own culture help us here ? "Crab mentality" as it is popularly known, exists in numerous cultures across the world. Go google for the term and you will know.

    It reminds me this story every time I visit IV.

    Workers working with an export company which use to ship chickens from all over the world to US/Europe, were packing chickens from some Indian port. Each box was having some 50-70 chickens in it .

    After loading them in, they were about to cover these boxes with the tops. The leader shouts to workers: " No need to put the tops. They wouldn't go any where "

    Surprised with this order, one worker asks the leader 'Why'. The leader says : " These are Indian chickens. IF one tries to escape, other will pull its leg."


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  • chicago60607
    09-17 11:58 AM
    I thought they had a out of the room settlement for 6020 already, why should they again keep discussing so much

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  • add78
    06-13 10:51 AM
    As of now there are more than 8000 views for this thread. If we just take that each of us might have visited this thread 50 times.. .That would still take us to 180 odd unique visitors...

    and if you look the survey..JUST 90 Calls so far.. Why there is a disconnect here/??? because we postpone and don't do our part...

    If efforts fails, it is only ourselves to blame.. Platform is set and try to atleast help by sparing 10 mins of your day... Take this matter to your heart and

    JUST DO IT>>>>
    You are the perfect example of what IV looks for in its new members. Enthusiastic, Energetic, Encouraging and Endeavoring.
    Keep up the good work.
    Folks, there is no great feeling than when you feel you are making the difference. Call, Donate, Rally others and feel the rush.

    Yes We Can? Sure We Can.
    Yes We Will? Sure We Will.
    But All Is Nil, Unless We Do The Thing.

    Thank You.


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  • madhanm8
    07-12 03:41 AM
    Hey Sam.....
    The word is out to Santa Clara University Int'nl Students. One concern.... Im getting responses from guys from other nationalities... do we need to worry ?

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  • sukant71
    02-12 09:15 PM
    We should send at least 100 emails via to Mr. Obama's team on Legal Immigration.

    Please urge new administration to support three bills by Joe Lofgren: HR 5882, HR 5921 & HR 6039 . This will be very helpful.

    1. log on to, create your profile (use a legal email addresss)

    2. go to

    input "legal immigration" and hit search questions and vote for all legal immigration questions

    3. You can also post your own question

    Why to change gov
    Why not to force to declare clarance date e.g. by today Since Dec2001 not a single file is pending.


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  • ArkBird
    10-07 02:56 PM
    There is vast difference between US and Indian housing market crash. India RE market will not collapse like here. There may be a melt down or small correction. The simple big reason is demand for housing in middle class due to economic growth. Based on population density, US is 9 times bigger than India. Lot of land in US. But housing land is so limited in India. So there is always demand. Second reason, there is no sub-prime lending in India. Third, in India, housing loan is based on cash worthiness rather than credit worthyness like in US. So we may not see such a massive foreclosure/bankrupcy in India to bring the price down considerably like in US.

    However, now the prices or extremly high, such that it can not be affordabe to people other than NRI or IT folks. 1 crore houses are very common now. Based on US economy it will definitly come down. It will be depend on how hard IT/outsourcing bussiness gets affectd in future.

    True, but you are forgetting the basic definition of demand. Demand is willingness to buy supported by ability to buy. If you are from any metros in India, think how many of your Non-IT, mainstream friends draw more than Rs. 50,000 per month? How can someone making even Rs. 50,000 a month afford 50 Lakh flat?

    If there are 10 people drooling out side Ferrari showroom that does not mean there is demand for 10 Ferrari :)



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  • Bokke
    06-15 04:30 AM
    Quick someone tell me which one I should put in the poll, the carbon pod or the orasquare ?

    The OraSquare Pod !! :)


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  • mgmanoj
    11-01 02:03 PM
    I have done appeal for my I-140 denied in AAO = Anybody has expereience how long does it take ? I have appealed in DEc'2006. Anybody has won the appeal ? Please share your experience.



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  • ronhira
    07-17 10:53 PM
    Is it possible to add VISA recapture to this bill? ????

    Family reuniting Bill H.R. 2709 Introduced Jun 4, 2009.
    H.R. 2709: Reuniting Families Act ( (

    you got it! its done.... only because u said it.... for such a brilliant idea which no one could think..... i want to nominate you for the president of the united states of america

    proud member of 'GCperm for president'!!!!


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  • go_guy123
    01-29 05:14 PM
    I am no expert on this but if labor substitution is eliminated it will remove anywhere from 30 to 50% of labor cleared from BEC. I know a lot of people who have applied for labor 2 to 3 times, they applied for a new labor every time they went to a new employer. It is these extra labor certifications that are being sold

    Its a good thing....these old labors are now selling 10K upwards

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  • walking_dude
    11-19 10:58 AM
    Agreed you cannot march for your own rights. Least you can do is post your displeasure at a web page. Can we do that?

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    As a WWJ 950 listener and an immigrant living in Michigan, I am concerned about the negative impacts on immigrants by the airing of your show "WWJ Business Breakfast" with Mr. LOU DOBBS, which is scheduled to air on Nov 29 between 8 a.m. - 9:30 a.m.

    Mr. Dobbs is known for his strong views against immigrants, including considering immigrants to be responsible for the spread of incurable diseases such as Drug-resistant Tuberculosis, Leprosy etc. From past experience on CNN, he is also highly likely to blame the current crisis in Auto Industry to the so-called "importation of cheap labor from third world countries".

    He is known to make exaggerated statements such as "Four hundred thousand H1Bs granted in a year" where as facts show otherwise. As per government figures, federal government awarded 124,096 H-1B visas in the fiscal year ending October 2005, the most recent annual totals available. That includes renewed visas, which don't count against the annual cap. These dramatic exaggerations distort the reality and provide a falsified alarmist view of the situation; which works against the interests of Immigrants ,businesses and American economy.

    In the interests of fairness, you should also air the counter-views while providing coverage to such strong one-sided views. This would provide a balanced coverage to your viewers.

    In the absence of such unbiased coverage, Mr. Dobbs verbal attacks may provoke physical attacks against foreigners as well as any foreign-looking persons by misguided elements provoked by your show. If such incidents do happen, please understand that your network will be indirectly responsible and liable to the foreigners affected.

    As a concerned party I would like to know -

    1) What action your network is taking to provide coverage of the other point of view, in the interests of fairness?

    2) What action is your network taking to ensure that Lou Dobbs verbal attacks on foreigners do not translate into physical attacks on foreigners living in Michigan?

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  • smisachu
    07-30 02:36 PM
    SLV profile in yahoo mentions it tries to hold instruments to match SLV performance.
    GLD claims physical gold holding in their profile. There is not holding detail on yahoo finance.
    It will be interesting to dig into their actual portfolio holdings. But I agree that these are probably the closest instruments on gold and silver price play.

    Both these ETF's have huge loop holes that are well known in the pro circles. The very question that they are holding physical gold or silver is highly questionable considering the market cap of these ETF's. There is risk that they will not perform like the underlying at all.

    The custodians of SLV is JPM who usually has a huge short position on Colmex silver and GLD is HSBC who has a huge short position on gold. Read this article for more info.

    Are GLD and SLV Legitimate Investment Vehicles? -- Seeking Alpha (

    Again this goes to my point that trading commodities is not as straight forward as it seems even in plain and easy instruments.

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  • sc3
    08-14 01:06 AM
    For those who care to read...the fact that I am suggesting that people should port their priority dates before that door closes shows that I believe that people who have played by the rules (ie actually put in the 5 yrs experience or find a job with EB2 requirements) should get preference !!

    I call this the plight of EB2 india because as the rules are set up, in theory, if majority of EB3 ported priority dates, then yes, EB2 with later dates would truly get the short end of the stick.

    Having said that, the backlash against people like SunnySurya is unfair. From his perspective, he is right and the law grants him the right to sue if he feels so.

    THe problem in these forums is that any mature discussion is not possible because any dissenting voice is soon suppressed with ad hominem attacks such as the gentlemen who wanted to buy me tickets to india.

    Seriously, how much more immature can we get?

    Even reading this discussion, NOT ONE PERSON has attacked the argument on a legal basis. INsults are aplenty though.

    Legal arguments were already dealt with in the other thread, there is no basis to sue, as the porting is well established law. So is the requirements for EB2.

    Regarding the EB3 to EB2 shafting EB2, well, you already know that most people will not be able to port because they are not willing to change jobs, or that the company is bit too strict about playing with immigration laws.

    Also, a point to be noted when you say EB3 has had the opportunity -- you too had similar opportunities. You too could have been EB3, gained experience and converted to EB2. Instead you decided that it was in your best interests to follow your dream of getting a PHD -- a choice, I dont think you are be ruing, but for the fact that you find yourself placed behind all the guys who did not do PHD.

    Plight of EB2? I think not. Even with EB3-to-EB2 porting, priority dates are well ahead of EB3 (even without the current jump, EB2 was around mid 2004), and now, I guess when it returns to normal, would be around 2005. So while not exactly current (like EB1, shouldn't they be "similarly entitled" to have a superior lead times), the wait times for EB2, compared to EB3 hardly justifies it to be called "plight".

    But then again, to each his own. EB3ers other EB2ers waited almost 3 years for our LCs, people with 2006PDs did not even wait 6 months for it (both EB2 and EB3) -- and worse still are people stuck in BEC (who waited 4-6 years). And yet people in 2006 complain that they have "horrendous wait times".

    EB3s saw tons of people getting through substitute labor, people who have no right to cut into the line ahead of us, significant portion of these cases (including EB2 substitution) are fraught with fraud, however the law was weak, and there was nothing that we could do to prevent such things. Lawsuits are useless for us to weed out such applicants, or even question their earlier PDs because they are protected by the then current laws.

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  • greencard_fever
    10-29 12:45 AM
    @ ndialani - Got your pvt. message. I will email you the letter to USCIS sec. Napolatino and the name of the IO at TSC.

    It's good to see that a lot of people who are not even current are proactively working on their cases and getting everything ready.

    Good luck!

    Hi Caliguy,

    congrats for getting greened...i saw you efforts and you deserve it...i am impressed and motivated with your efforst..can you share me the latter format which you had wrote to Napolatino..i would appreciate your help...thank you.

    12-16 06:20 AM
    That was a very interesting roller-coaster ride. By the way, if you ever decide to make movies, count on me to watch them:). Your story-telling talent is fabulous.

    Your experience does give hope to lot of us. Thanks for posting. Enjoy your freedom and the holiday season!!!

    When GCSOON-Ihope becomes GC-IgotIt!

    Guys, guess what I am holding in my hand? Yes, that bit of plastic, object of our fantasies �.and nightmares. After filing Writ of Mandamus on November 1st, things went amazingly quickly and smoothly: on December 1st, the US attorney gave confirmation that the case has been approved and I received the card in the mail on 12/07.
    What did I feel then? Really indescribable�Happy? It goes way beyond that.
    I feel more relieved than anything else, like if I had a ton of lead off my shoulders�
    May my story inspire, give hope and faith to all of you guys who are so depressed at the moment because of what happened, or did not happen should I say, in that shameful Congress.
    As you will see, I had my head in a brick wall more than once. More than once, I was devastated and, still, I never gave up and made it through.
    So, please, enjoy the holidays: as long as there is life, there is hope.
    I know something about it:

    Come here in 1993 as a student on F1 visa. Graduate and got Work Permit (OPT).
    Find dream job in dream company. Hired directly by CEO himself.
    Company loves me and applies right away for H1 and then Labor Cert.
    Life is beautiful. The start of the American Dream. Not for long.
    Attorney has been working for company for years. Always successfully.
    Picks me for his first failure: screws up completely.
    H1 denied. Labor Cert denied. Company gets mad: attorney is fired.
    OPT runs out: company still loves me but�I am now out of status and�fired too.
    Welcome to America. Life has turned dark. The start of my American Nightmare.

    I am disgusted. Decide to go back to my home country (France).
    I miss California. Find new company that loves me: apply for H1 again (this time, I am paying all fees, out of my meager savings).
    H1 is approved, got stamp at embassy in Paris. I am back. Life is beautiful again.
    Not for long. Exactly 2 hours (no kidding).
    Find out that company is a sweat-shop and boss is a crook.
    Pays me half (yes, half) what he was supposed to.
    Go to INS to complain: �If you are not happy, go back to your home country�.
    I swear that it is exactly what I am told.
    Consult attorneys for a possible lawsuit: � Alas, your situation happens more often than you can imagine. Many unscrupulous employers use and abuse of would-be immigrants like you. Don�t waste your time and money in a lawsuit, just find yourself a new job�and be more careful this time�.

    I am broke. Can�t even go back �home� and anyway I don�t want to.
    Not with just my tail between my legs for the second time.
    Home is here. I want my American Dream and I will get it, no matter what.
    Decide to swallow my pride and endure the humiliation until I can find new employer willing to sponsor new H1 and pay all fees. I just can�t afford anything as I am hardly surviving.
    Employer wants to fire me: �you are always complaining about the money�.
    I have to threaten him (yes I did) to report his company to Dept. of Labor (most his employees are illegals and as abused as I am, not getting paid for overtime and so on�).
    Imagine in what kind of atmosphere I am working�but I need this job to remain legal until I can find something else.
    For sure, I will be out of there within a couple months at the most.
    Don�t know yet that this nightmare will last�2 years. Still can�t believe it.
    Had I known, I would have fled the first day, no matter what.
    In my specialty, jobs are not easy to find.
    Not to mention that this time, I have to be very �choosy��
    Companies that I approach:
    a) don�t want to hear about immigration or
    b) don�t want to pay attorney fees or
    c) don�t want to pay at least prevailing wage or
    d) all of the above
    All doors seem to be closed.
    I have never felt that bad in my life: go see the doctor.
    �You have all the symptoms of someone who is having�a nervous depression.
    Do you want me to refer you to a good psy who could help you?�
    No, thanks. I know why I am sick.

    Finally find new company that loves me: apply for new H1 and they pay all fees.
    H1 approved.
    This time, I am holding my breath. We are now in December 2000. Seven years since I first came in the US. Time flies�and no GC in sight.
    Job is nice, company is nice. Recovering from depression.
    Boss loves me: decides to start for me RIR Labor in�.May 2001.
    Yes, one month after that damn month of April 2001. You know what I mean.
    Six months of advertising.
    PD is January 2002.
    Labor Cert approved �in July 2004. Concurrent filing I-140/I-485 in August 2004.
    Get EAD. FP in September 2004.

    Things change: company is now going down. Boss still loves me but�lays me off.
    (Re)(Re) Start of my American Nightmare?
    Attorney says: �Don�t worry (!!!) Employer loves you. Won�t revoke I-140. GC is for future job. Find new H1 job to maintain status and see what happens�.
    This time, I am lucky (!) and find right away new H1 job. Company is OK, job is OK.
    Later, previous company nicely recovers: got rehired!
    Only thing: I will have to pay all fees from now on. Don�t care. Back on the right track.
    Do Medical in April 2005.
    I-140 approved in May 2005�but visas are now �Unavailable�. Nothing to worry about.
    October is around the corner and new numbers will be available, right?
    Just a few more months and I will have my GC. Wrong.

    October bulletin comes out. EB3 World is back to March 2001 (PD is 01/2002).
    I swear that I almost s..t in my pants. When is too much�just too much?
    How much more frustration and anguish can I endure? More, much more.
    By rage and stress, I pack up an extra 20 lbs in just a few months.
    Most people lose weight when they are under extreme stress and/or depression, I do the opposite. I am now 40 lbs overweight.
    Second EAD. FP again in October 2005. Life is paced by visa bulletins�
    September 2006 bulletin comes out: EB3 World has now passed my PD.
    I am holding my breath again. Rightly so, for the umpteenth time.
    Third EAD.

    Wait 2 weeks and start inquiring about the status of my application.
    Call so-called �Customer service�: as usual they know jack s..t.
    �Your application is still pending�. Thanks, I already knew that.
    Make Infopass appointment at Los Angeles downtown office.
    �Sir, I can�t tell you anything specific because your case is at the Laguna Niguel office.
    Contact them at:�

    E-mail #1 on 09/18: (�) Status of my case? (�)
    Response on 09/27: �the I-485 at question is still pending FBI name check clearance.
    Once the file has been cleared by FBI, it will be adjudicated. The service has no control on how long it takes FBI to clear the case�.

    E-mail #2 on 09/27: (�) When was that initiated? (�)
    Response on 10/02: (�) On or about 08/19/2004. (�)

    This time, I surprise myself: I am one more time devastated but remain strangely calm.
    Even laugh about it. Nervously. Too much is just too much.
    I had heard about that Name Check aberration before but had ignored it.
    Like most people involved in that GC mess, I refused to worry in advance.
    One bridge to cross at the time, please.
    Weirdly enough, I am now almost relieved. Why? Because for the first time ever, I can be proactive and I CAN ACT!
    I call my lawyer and tell her about those 2 e-mails: �That�s good enough to file Writ of Mandamus. That summarizes the whole situation, we don�t need anything else�.
    WOM is filed on November 1st.
    (I requested FOIPA and contacted Senators, President, Vice-President etc, etc�
    only later just in case we would have needed more ammunitions).

    After that, things go fast:
    11/ 29: without any warning (!), LUD: �Your card has been ordered�.
    12/01: confirmation from the Assistant US Attorney that my case has been approved.
    12/04 LUD: �Your case has been approved�.
    (So, they notify you that the card has been ordered�before notifying that the case has been approved�).
    12/05: receive Approval Notice in the mail and my attorney indicates that she will then dismiss the Mandamus complaint.
    12/07: receive the Magic Card in the mail (regular mail, even not certified, unbelievable�).

    What a timing! Could I dream of a better Christmas Gift?
    Who said Papa Noel/Santa or Banta Claus/Little Red Riding Hood did not exist?
    :) ;) :) ;) :) ;) :) ;) :)

    11-13 04:19 PM
    Hello anurakt,

    Thank for contributing again to IV. You and other members like yourself would be the reason for IVs success in changing the flawed green card system.

    Thank you for encouraging other IV members for contributing. As you know, this is very important and more amongst us should encourage our fellow IV members to contribute. Often times it is evident that few IV members are struggling to keep a positive tone on the forums. As you may have experienced, it is easy to post few messages here and there. The message of some of these posts is to throw out ideas for others to implement. But in the end, the success of our community will depend on the contribution from kind members like you. Thank You.

    U r welcome ! I will put in more in coming days . I just wish people understand that we are in a good spot and need make the most of it. Wothout money this will not be possibel. At the end of the day I don't want to be left stranded just because I couldn't contribute even a buck.