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  • desi3933
    07-20 04:41 PM
    Can someone please clarify this to me?

    I'm really confused with the rule right now. Since my last entry was Apr 2007 and I worked only from July 2007, was I out of status?

    I've read this -
    Out of Status is counted only since last entry in US for employment related I-485. And Section 245(k) covers out of status upto 180 days.

    And I've read this from somewhere too -
    For a new H1B, a grace period of up to 60 days is allowed before you can start work after entering the country.

    which rule is correct? Thank you again

    Both are correct. What is your confusion?

    Not a legal advice.

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  • 485Mbe4001
    08-22 04:38 PM
    I am EB3-I (pd 02 retrogressed) but was interested in this discussion so i emailed my lawyer about it. She said, historically the last month of the fiscal year has the most approvals as they try to clear as much as they can. You will see a lot more approvals from next week or sept 2nd week.

    As you guys may already know. When a 485 file is with an adjudicating officer, h/she then is able to request a number via an online portal from the State Dept with the relevant case details.

    I am hearing that for the last few days when EB2 India/China numbers are requested, instead of granted or not, the officers are getting a "pending" status report. They can't adjudicate without the number being approved from the State Dep't.
    The same thing is not happening with ROW cases. Of course all of this is ridiculous and unfair but judging from last years events, I suppose we are to expect this. So it appears that the state Dep't might be doing some internal calculations. Not sure if they are trying to get info back from consular posts as well before they release the rest to the service centers.
    However what is clear is that all is definitely not smooth with the communication at this time. Hopefully they will get it together and in the end not waste numbers. NSC was really slow off the mark earlier this month and those of us with old pending cases there, appear to have been the losers this rounds.
    I'm praying they have numbers left over for next month. Based on what we are seeing they seem have gone into ramping down for Aug. already.

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  • english_august
    07-06 10:36 PM
    The Times of India article that is on their website has also been published in Delhi and Mumbai print editions of Saturday. You can check out their epaper.

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  • tissac
    10-07 04:11 PM
    I also had same FNU problem.

    In my passport Surname was empty and Give Name was my First Name + Last Name (which was actually my surname). I didn't notice this really till I got my first H1b Visa stamp. On DS Forms you have to fill just like in passport.
    So my first H1-B visa had
    Surname : First Name + Last Name and
    First Name : FNU

    I had my name proper on my first I-94 card( since I filled it) so luckily I was able to take by First DL in my proper name. DMV initially gave me trouble but when i showed my other documents including Birth Certificate they gave me the DL (NJ) with proper names

    To fix it next time when I went for vacation back to India I went to issued passport Office and they stamped be an observation in one of the inside pages which said the name should be read as
    First Name : My First Name
    Last name : My Last name

    Then when I renewed my H1-B later I properly updated my DS forms and my name came fine in second H1-B stamp .

    So far no problem till now. I am hoping to fix this issue permanently in my renewal passport which I need to take in 2010 and forget about this forever.



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    09-15 08:25 AM

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  • chanduy9
    07-05 03:12 PM
    Hey Chandra can you add the plan of action into your first post on this thread? Add the address and message etc too. So that people don't miss it.

    Added plan of action, the address and msg already there...let me know if you want me to add any.



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  • santb1975
    12-03 12:03 PM
    The gaming console money didn't come in yet

    We are at $ 3050.00 now

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  • Sherman_tribiani
    09-08 04:24 PM
    Granted Native Americans were here first but at that time America was just a land inhabited by people and it was not a nation. A nation is defined as having the following characteristics (These are UN definitions)
    1. Has space or territory which has internationally recognized .
    2. Has people who live there on an ongoing basis.
    3. Has economic activity and an organized economy. A country regulates foreign and domestic trade and issues money.
    4. Has the power of social engineering, such as education.
    5. Has a transportation system for moving goods and people.
    6. Has a government which provides public services and police power.
    7. Has sovereignty. No other State should have power over the country's territory.
    8. Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries.
    So America was never a nation before it became America.

    Regarding you second point about Columbus, Christopher Columbus was not here look for a promised land, he and other pioneers were here to find trading opportunities. Get your history straight, India was known for Spices and Gold at that time and the pioneer wanted a piece of it. Now India has nothing to offer, other then a piece of its humongous population.

    Regarding your points about, starting a company, I have already answered them before

    Perhaps, we could ignore you. Perhaps we could ignore your ignorance. Perhaps I could abuse you like you did. Perhaps. But I wont. Because I feel sorry.Perhaps you've been a loser your whole life and need to blame someone for your hard knocks in life. But that isn't the point. Perhaps you've forgotten, that the original Native Americans are called 'Indians' for a reason, because a certain Chris Columbus lost his way(he was no Pilgrim believe me)...while trying to find the 'then' promised land!. . Perhaps you've forgotten that 6 out of every 10 companies started in the last 15 years was by an immigrant. Perhaps you've forgotten that the Governor of the most wealthy State in the Union is an immigrant..... I could, perhaps go on...but I wont. Because I have to thank you. Thank you for stirring us up. Thank you for motivating us to action. Stirring up those of us who have been in a deep slumber.....we'll prove that we do matter and that we DO HAVE WHAT IT TAKES.

    Thanks brother.:)


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  • tdasara
    02-04 06:43 PM
    I think Rajiv Khanna once sued INS to make sure the I485's are approved 'First In & First Out' basis.

    I am not sure if we can approach him again and how.

    This is just to get to know how USCIS is allocating the visas. How USCIS is interpreting the law?

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  • logiclife
    06-17 02:20 PM
    Be Unreasonable & a cause of progress, not just a beneficiary.

    Hello everyone,

    I will explain the title of this thread in a minute (the unreasonable part) but before that I would like to share my experience in DC last week during, before and after lobby days.

    A few weeks ago, when Aman called me to join him in lobby days, just like many others, I was having a difficult time scheduling vacation days off from work. I somehow convinced my boss to let me take those days off and finish the work in the weekend prior to June.

    The Airport pickup:

    When I reached the Airport, Aman and Pratik were there to pick me up. And this is where it got funny and really hilarious. The car was a compact rental car and it was full of printers, laptops and folders -- all in preparation of lobby day. There was barely enough place to sit in the car. After shutting all the doors tight (we really had to compress the luggage and force the door shut) we started driving towards the hotel. And the dome light would not shut off. So everyone outside can see a car full of luggage, printers and people packed like a can of sardines. Fortunately Aman knew the way to the Hotel and we could go there without having to stop for directions.

    Preparation and training on Sunday:

    Sunday was hectic, busy, tiring and very very interesting. I met a lot of new people on Sunday who had come to DC for the first time. And it felt really really good to reconnect with people who we had met earlier in 2007 rally in DC and the earlier rally in San Jose in July. Just felt like I had met my friends from college with whom I spend 4 years. The kind of relationship and chemistry that we have is impossible to describe in words. Crisis and calamity have a way of creating bonds that last a lifetime. We all may get green-cards in next 1 year or maybe 10 years. But I will remember the people I met in DC twice and in San Jose for the rest of my life. And I am sure others feel the same way. These are the people who were sitting on the laptop scheduling lawmaker meetings and connecting members to appointments till 4:00 AM on Monday morning and then back to work by 8:00 AM. We ate whatever was ordered or whatever we found in the hotel. There were people printing business cards in one corner. Others were printing the drop-off material for lawmakers, preparing neat folders for meetings. There was training and mock-meetings going on in another corner for people who had never been to the Capitol Hill before. There was so much purpose and so much goal-oriented motivation in the room, I felt really glad to have not missed this even one out of 3 times we done this both in DC and in San Jose.

    The next two days:

    Over the next two days, I went to about 7 meetings in the House and Senate side and had very very interesting experiences, mostly positive. I cannot share the details of the response for each office as this is a public forum, but I can tell you that having been to DC about 6 times now since 2006, there are Hill Staffers who know many of us and even remember our names. Our conversations do not begin with introductions, but where we left off in our last meeting. More than 60-70% of the offices of Congressmen and Senators know about Immigration Voice and know about the issue. Some offices may have newer staff and not know, and that's where education helps.

    Every single day consisted of going to the Hill from the situation room, (I mostly took a cab, I am lazy that way even if its only 4 blocks), coming back, getting some work done, going back to the Hill, accompanying someone if they are alone in the meetings (it helps to have 2 or more IV members go to a meeting). We worked till 11 PM mostly, and got about 4-5 hours of sleep each night. And that is true for everyone who was there. EVERY SINGLE one. Walking between the office buildings (and they are big) and walking a few times back to the Hotel also made some of us realize (like me) that how out of shape we are physically :):)

    And now to the UNreasonables:

    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
    George Bernard Shaw
    Irish dramatist & socialist (1856 - 1950)

    Every single person who came to DC this time or the time before, or who came to San Jose rally has been told by friends, family and colleagues "Why are you going to DC, let others go, take care of yourself, all problems get fixed eventually, Congress will take care of it".

    They sound very reasonable or try to convince you that they are the reasonable ones and you are being unreasonable by going to the Capitol and working on your cause.

    The truth is...yes, we may be. But we are the ones who will eventually make a difference. If you read the quote from George Bernard Shaw, you will realize that the reasonable men and women will sit around and talk about us, save their time for family and leisure and comply themselves to the system. They will comply themselves to a system that keeps in hanging without a green card for 20 years. They will never be capable of ushering progress.

    The unreasonable ones, the ones like us, who contribute to this cause in various forms, are the gifted ones. We are the lucky ones. For we have the wisdom and the strength to do the unreasonable and get the world to comply to our point of view.

    And flower campaign, the DC rally -- that got bulletin reversed in 2007,
    the popularity of removing per-country ceilings in the offices that exist today and didnt exist before --

    All this a work of men and women like us who are unreasonably resilient, who will not listen to the advise of reasonable men who sit on the sidelines and refresh the Visa Bulletin page every first friday of every month 20 times a day.

    But to those who get it...I have one more quote for you, a final one, I promise:

    "If we did all the things we are capable of, we would literally astound ourselves."
    Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)

    I wish the problem of greencard backlogs get cleared soon, but if it doesnt, I will do this a 100 times again and with same or more passion, determination and purpose. Our energy and determination would outlast and outlive the intertia of Congress.


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  • diputhomas1
    10-24 07:20 PM
    Hi Friend,

    When you corrected your surname in the passport,did they issue a new passport with a new number?


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  • we_can
    12-19 02:51 PM
    $25. Kudos to this fund raising effort.

    Even though $100 was not a minimum, I think that there was a psychological barrier of having it as the first visible option on the contribution page that was deterring a lot of users (including yours truly).

    I encourage everyone on this forum to come forward and do this.


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  • krish2005
    12-04 04:29 PM
    You may idolize a super cop or a good cop. But without basic humanity he is not even a human. You might red me on this perhaps. But I would not as its your view and this is my view. I hope other fellow IVians will acknowledge this.

    This is ridiculous. Just trying to blame a good Sherrif.

    I am from AZ and Sherrif Joe is the best and the whole country should be proud of him.
    He is doing the job which is supposed to be done by Federal govt and ICE, trying to take care of a border state county.
    Well you always have critics when you are doing a good job or he wont keep getting elected again and again.

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  • Pineapple
    03-09 01:22 PM
    Chipped in with my donation.. will continue to do so.


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  • alisa
    02-04 08:03 PM

    I would have to be an absolute moron to contribute to IV, and to work for it, if at the end it costs me more in getting a green card.

    So, either you think that IV-ers from ROW are morons. Or you want them to quit, and turn this organization into an Indians-only group.

    Its as simple as that. You can quote all the laws in the universe, and come up with all the fancy logic that you want. But what I have said above is what it all boils down to.

    No one here takes advantage of any group. We are talking here is what law says and how it is implemented by various agencies. The problem is there is doubt that DOS has not understood the law. No one is against ROW and loves India and China. US immigration simply based on preference catagories. For example, wife of U.S citzen will be given first preference in immigration (FB1) compare to brothers and sisters of US permanent residents (FB4or5). This is the law.

    Similar thing in employment catagories too. Before 2000, there is a verical spill over of EB visas. Becase of this, a high skilled workers from India/China has to wait more compare to low skilled workers from ROW. This practice will not put US in technological edge. Thats why AC21 law implemented.

    After 2000, congress removed country quota in all EB catagoires. The simple reason is to make US competiveness in 21st century. The intend is simple.

    The simple meaning of AC21 law is, for example, let us assume following hypothitical situation. There are 40,000 noble prize winners from Mexico. All of them applying EB1 visas in a FY. In same FY, no one from other countries applied EB1 visa. As per AC21 rule, entire 40,000 visas (100%) goes to Mexico in EB1 irrsepective of how EB2 or EB3 or FE catagories are retrogressed or howmany mexians in EB/FB are waiting. This is what congress intend to promote high skilled immigrants to USA. This is what american competivness in 21 century. The intent here is noble prize winners should not wait even if they are from oversubscribed countries like mexico.

    If you read word by word of AC21 rule ..you will understand what I am saying.

    INA 202 (a) (5) (A)
    EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter

    My intension is simple.

    Even if SKIL/CIR bill passed in near future, if DOS or USCIS does not implement the law accordingly, it will be disaster for oversubscribed countries like India and China.

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  • english_august
    07-05 10:21 PM
    The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.

    I think this campaign can be pretty effective if we want it to. This idea is not totally outlandish. If you recall, recently fans of the CBS series Jericho sent nuts to the office of CBS when that series was discontinued.

    Sometime back, Indians in the UK sent thousands of unstamped letters to their postal department, protesting a stamp that hurt their religious sentiments.

    Those campaigns worked and so can this. All we need is a little bit of enthusiasm!


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  • zazona.com
    09-08 12:10 AM
    Could do our jobs why would the employers be willing to sponsor our GREEN CARDS and spend '000s of dollars to keep us :confused:


    look at the filth that is bestowed upon you from everyone -


    ur employer treats u like shit, people here don't want u here, government don't want to listen to u. disgusting. why do u even exist?

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  • nozerd
    02-03 08:54 AM
    Its like your boss asking you to tell him how many hrs you do actual work v/s how many hrs do you do non work related things. Would you volunterily disclose your wasted time at work every day ?
    You will disclose total hrs you worked but not time you didnt work :)

    USCIS does not give how many Visas they have used and how many are left

    like how many unused have gone to EB3 or Eb2 etc
    if its Vertical or horizontal visa distribution

    they have been some Law Suits on them to give the data

    08-22 03:59 PM
    This is a totally wrong message someone out there put out to make people nervous. Application support centers do no have IO's. The only IO's you will meet would be at a different USCIS facility where you take appointment and stand before the counter and ask the questions.

    There will be no reason why someone would meet a IO at the fingerprinting place which generally have technicians and security to monitor the process. You sit in a waiting room alongwith 100 other people, then once your name is called, you do the fingerprinting and get out of the door.

    There is no time to mingle with IOs nor there will be IOs(friendly or not) who would be willing to disclose any information to you.

    Some people online gloat at having pleasure to spread disinformation. this seems to be the case...

    Guys take it easy...

    I agree.... there are no IOs at the fingerprinting offices let alone talking to them.

    I had an infopass appointment today and the IO there told me a lot. She told me that me and my wife's namecheck and fingerprints were cleared. She also told me that the case has not been assigned and therefore she opened a Service Request for me to expedite the case (dont know if it will help). She also mentioned that there is no memo stating that the vsa numbers have been exhausted.

    And believe me.. i overheard the other IOs in the saying that the immigration system is screwed up and the service centers dont know what they are doing... so guys you can see what the system thinks of itself.....

    so again as i have said....sit tight and hope and pray ....


    07-08 12:06 PM
    Just out of curiosity, is anybody working on notifying the media in the US?

    Working on it... we will have the "draft" version by the end of the day. In the meanwhile I would appreciate it if anyone can find out fax numbers where we can fax the press release to.

    Email addresses are fine but we need fax numbers too. People take them more seriously.