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  • hopefulgc
    09-08 12:03 PM
    I have only a few things to say to Mr. Sherman.

    Do whatever the F**K you want to stop us immigrants. You can't.
    Nobody was able to stop your Grandpa from hopping aboard the Mayflower and landing in Ellis island and making a good life for himself. He had the might. He did it. So will we. However, I will do one thing more than that. I will teach my grand kids to respect people, no matter who they are and where they are from.

    I am going to immigrate. I am going to work hard. I am going to prosper. I will bring good life to my family. I will bring value to this society and this country. I will start companies and provide my brother americans with jobs. I will help make America better.

    You only make me stronger.
    I could say here that people like you make our lives difficult. But that would be wrong. I have quite a few Second generation Italian friends here in florida and they are simply gems. They are among the reason I always wanted to come to this country. So you are alone in your ridicule/negative motivation. As much as you want to make us feel, we are aware that you do not represent the majority sentiment in this great country.

    - Go IV!!

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  • dwhuser
    08-19 03:13 PM
    We have taken an infopass appointment for the coming Monday and was wondering what to ask the immigration officer apart from the obvious,
    "when can we expect our application processing?"
    "Did we clear our FBI Name check process?
    Please suggest us questions that are helpful to determine and help our application status.

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  • eldrick
    07-20 05:01 PM
    If out of status or not? Since I worked 90 days after my last entry.

    Thanks again

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  • pmb76
    09-11 06:46 AM
    reedandbamboo, sweetjungle, bawa,
    Please refrain from using the terms "Indian legal immigrant community" in your communication with OMB. IV represents the skilled legal immigrant community in general and not immigrants from only one country. Doing this defeats our own cause and divides us. As a matter of fact I know several people who belong to EB2 ROW whose PDs are 2005-2006 and they are still waiting.
    IV was established to represent legal immigrants from all over the world. Please do not indulge in such divisive campaigns. You have been warned.


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  • suriajay12
    04-11 11:19 AM
    Hi PotatoEater !!

    What you said may be true for case like some who really applied in Nov 01 is waiting and someone who applied in Jul 07 with a substituted labor of Sep 01 got it. It ends there.
    Those are a few lucky fellows, but did it legally.
    That doesnt solve much of the backlogs problem even if that didnt happen. Analyze the situation in May 07. It was horrible, right.
    It was luck AILA and other groups including IV could contribute to keep the dates current for that month, for our benefit

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  • ItIsNotFunny
    03-09 05:10 PM
    Its 17% Goal achieved. I wish I could see 25% today.

    Yes We Can.


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  • jitnair
    08-21 04:29 PM
    We have been fooled so many times in the past with the predictions of the visa allocation being over etc. I would take this with a grain of salt.

    Whenever someone starts the thread with a line "A friendly IO told me blah blah blah" response is *YAWN*

    Hard to believe as the very same DOS moved EB2 dates "Forward" for September bulletin. So make be some fake.

    Anyone had a chance to talk to NSC today? Did they have anything to say?

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  • ps3539
    05-11 03:33 PM
    Put suggestion on Immigration Secretary's website to move back substituted labors according to substitution dates (I-140 filing)


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  • pritz
    02-27 03:32 PM
    I am done with all the coursework requirements for Master degree but the official degree will be on May 2008 commencement.I want to apply H1 under master quota this year(April 2008).Since I am in the same situation this year as you.Could anyone please share their experience.
    I will appreciate it.

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  • Immi_Chant
    02-27 03:26 PM
    Wednesday is 03/04/09. Let me know if you meant tuesday or wednesday.


    Hi friends,
    No doubt this is a great idea and also as newbie2020 suggests no point of wasting time and loosing the current tempo and massive support of IV members on this regard.
    Would like to request all, is it possible to change the bridge schedule a bit to 9.00 or 9.30 PM EST so that it would be easier to participate for people who are in Pacific Time Zone? If most people have difficulty in doing that, lets move forward with the current schedule.

    Please update.....



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  • maximus777
    08-12 06:10 PM
    EB3 Guys,

    Take it easy... This is just for humour, to have fun at these times.

    No green card for you. Just work well for 6 years, enjoy life in US, enjoy sports cars by renting, not by buying, rent a big house, have a lawn and garden in back yard, grow your own vegetables. Have nice vacations like Hawaii, Jamaican islands, Vegas, Porto Rico etc.,Have fun in life. Do not go for green card. After 6 years, get nice job in India,own apartment near to office and ask your parents to live with you. Take kids to school . Have fun with them. Try to become director, AVP,VP,SVP,CEO,CTO and President. Do not go for green card. After you become director, buy a single family home and mercedez or BMW and have fun. Retire by the time your kids become earners. Grow vegetables in back yard. Do gardening and have fun. Thats how life should be. Do not hope for green card. H A V E F U N.

    Completely agree with you here. Puts the quest for GC in perspective. Understand that everyone's situation is different, but is it really worth it to put your life on hold, that too based on the whims of USCIS?!? Just a thought. 10 years ago, the standard of living gap between India and US was so large, it made perfect sense. The gap isnt that huge any more. For some of us stuck in EB3, it could mean another 5-10 years wait. By then the gap would have closed some more. So looking back at that point in time will the sacrifices be worth it? Once again, there is no right or wrong answer, but just cant help wondering.

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  • das0
    04-05 07:39 PM
    logically speaking lottery will be applied only on the applications that have crossed the limit. for 20000 MS H1 quota assume on April 4 the numbr of applications recieved is 18000 and on April 5 the number of applications recieved is 4000, then lottery will be held for the 4000 applications to determine the 2000 cases. All applications recieved on and after april 6 will be returned.

    This is just my logical reasoning.


    I totally agree with you. I hope this is what USCIS will do actually.


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    11-28 03:46 PM
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  • newbie2020
    03-02 12:44 PM
    bump this thread to keep the interest up and running...


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  • thirumalkn
    07-17 07:14 PM
    Thanks a ton IV Team ! This is a great Achievement !!!

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  • amitjoey
    07-05 04:04 PM
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  • seekerofpeace
    08-11 04:10 PM
    I don't see anything positive in the Visa Movement....

    It will be good only for July 1st/2nd filers because I-485 receipt date holds priority over the actual Labor App priority date and for those with receipt dates of 485 in Aug or Sept I don't see any hope of clearance since there are millions in line ahead of them who are the July 2 filers. Same happened to ppl with Labor PD of 2006 but had a July 2 485 receipt date and were able to jump the line.

    Also USCIS is not going to adjudicate any cases without throwing an RFE since more than 2 years have passed and by the time people respond to the RFE the October bulletin will be effective and it will be another huge retrogression as history has shown.

    Pity ...for the sheer mess and for the so many legals waiting forever...


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  • chanduv23
    08-22 11:13 AM
    I would not believe on hearsy and rumors. It can only be verified after talking to USCIS top officials.

    I totally agree. This might be true, but cableching MUST update his profile with a valid information and be verifiable and then be contacted if we want to believe what he says.

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  • godspeed
    08-22 05:27 PM
    Thanks for sharing this info
    I thought I will share this. Not sure if its going to help anyone.

    Approached the entry counter where they give you token to inside and talk to IO. Surprisingly the person at the entry counter had IO written on her badge that she was wearing. She asked me reason to visit. I told her that I applied for my I-485 and have been current for this month , but have not heard anything. She asked if I was EB2 or Eb3. I told her EB2. She asked for receipts. I gave her 485 receipt and copy of I-140. She then compared my PD with copy of August Visa Bulletin. After she confirmed that I was current, she told me that my case is assigned to IO. I don't think she even entered my A# or receipt number. But I am not sure about this part because I dont remember the exact sequence of events. Anyway, I asked her whether my NC is clear. She then entered something in the system and told me that my NC was clear only last month and thats why my case has assigned to my IO. But this time she told me it was assigned on 8/8/08. She told me I should hear something soon. Did not and was not ready to give any time line. Also she did not mention anything about visa numbers being exhausted. If this had been the case she could have mentioned that.

    After that I asked if everything else was clear, she mentioned without even looking at the system that everything is clear and I should hear on my case soon.

    I dont know about rest of the stuff but I know that at least the NC info is consistent with the call I made to TSC few weeks ago. So I can at least believe that my NC is clear.

    Hope this helps.

    04-14 12:50 PM
    It is unfair to say that many EB3 and EB2 folks are stuck in GC queue for more than 10 years, FOR NO FAULT OF THEIRS. Yes, they are stuck but there is fault, in most cases, they knew they were risking it by changing employers for petty raises or other reason. If they followed the original H1B rule and stayed with sponsoring employer, GC for EB3 took a max of 7 years even with the old system of RIR (not PERM) or even without RIR - and that is MAX....very rare.

    The aim of this appeal is not to compare or compete with EB1, PhDs, US MS degree holders or discuss other exotic bills!

    There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.

    It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
    8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.

    For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.

    The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.

    When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????

    Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?

    Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!

    So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.

    Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!

    Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!

    May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!

    09-13 01:49 PM
    I incorporated the points you made and the revisions are in fuchsia:

    The Ombudsman

    September 10. 2008


    On behalf of the employment-based legal immigrant community in the United States of America, I am writing to highlight the ongoing egregious inefficiencies in the immigration �services� provided by the USCIS and the DOS. There have been numerous occasions when there have been erratic movements in the DOS published visa bulletin dates. This, as we understand it, is owing to USCIS under- or over-estimating the number of applicants available for adjustment of status. And in the rare instances when the date finally moves forward by a substantial window, USCIS tends to approve the more recent applications as opposed to the ones that were filed earlier. Let me explain with an example: in the July 2008 visa bulletin, the cut-off date for the India EB2 category was 01 April 2004. A month later, the cut-off date for Indian EB2 applicants abruptly moved forward two years and was set at 01 June 2006. Instead of approving applicants who applied in 2004 and 2005, USCIS approved applicants from 2006. Where is the justice in that??? Why bother publishing the cut-off date if approvals are to be randomly allocated???

    We understand we have to stand in line and wait our turn. Each applicant is assigned a priority date which chronologically determines his/her turn for approval. To further complicate matters, once the I-485 is filed, a crop of other dates are issued by the USCIS � a receipt date, a notice date and a processing date. USCIS then takes the liberty to throw random rules at us � �Case adjudication is based on receipt date� �No, we process applications based on notice date�, �Actually, it�s the processing date that determines which applications are adjusted.� !!!

    Please take a moment to consider how these conflicting statements and arbitrary decisions wreak havoc on our morale and psyches? No one, NOT even the USCIS, has a clue as to what exactly is happening in their processing centers. The USCIS has never been able to clearly state the exact number of applications languishing, excuse us, we meant pending, in their �service� centers! We, employment-based immigrants, are tax-paying, law-abiding, educated individuals contributing to America�s knowledge economy - yet we have been subjected to the worst aspects of the US employment-based immigration system. These include:

    1) Extended wait times at each step of the immigration process.
    2) Lack of transparency on the part of USCIS (re: priority date, receipt date, notice date).
    3) Lack of USCIS customer service � once applications are submitted to USCIS they disappear into a black hole. Barring a website where one can nominally check one�s case status (but which in reality remains static for months, even years!) there is no concept of updating an applicant on where his case stands. And this is despite the applicant paying immigration fees that often run into thousands of dollars over the years. We are simply expected to wait in a complete void of information, for however long it may take, until approval.
    4) Lost opportunities owing to the lack of job portability during the process (a time period spanning an average of five years, whereas an applicant from any country besides India gets his/her PR card in under two years).

    Another inconsistency, surfacing in August 2008, begs redressal � while I-485 applicants (albeit those from 2006 instead instead of earlier years) at the TSC were being approved in a steady stream, the NSC was almost completely inactive resulting in only a very few cases being approved prior to August 20th. After this date, the NSC appeared to completely hold off on all I-485 approvals while approvals continued at the TSC. Could somebody please account for this preferential treatment for I-485 applicants at the TSC versus those at the NSC? Furthermore, when complaint faxes were sent in to the NSC in protest, instead of issuing a formal statement to explain their approach, the NSC retaliated by issuing a bunch of RFEs. Is the USCIS trying to intimidate us so that we remain quiescent??

    While we are grateful for the opportunity to partake in the American dream, it is ironic that we arrive in America and find that our freedom is shackled � we are bound to our sponsoring employer from the start to the end of an extremely lengthy process. Although legal immigration reform is our ongoing aim, for now, we sincerely request you to investigate the process whereby the monthly visa bulletin is set and to ensure FIFO (first in, first out) adjustment so that those of us who have been waiting longer receive attention prior to those who have applied later. We want USCIS to be accountable to us, its paying customers.

    We request you to lend us your ear and address these issues so that we are not subjected to them in the future. Kindly note that there remain roughly 15 days until the October 2008 visa bulletin goes into affect. Once October arrives, the dates for Indian EB2 candidates retrogress to 2003. We believe you have the power to help a few more of us who have been waiting, seemingly endlessly, to get out of this immigration limbo.

    Thanking you,

    I really appreciate your initiative in drafting this letter.Please let us know, how each one of us could contribute . Whom should the faxes/emails/pamplets be sent.