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  • kumarc123
    07-11 11:07 AM
    Dear Mr. pascal,
    Given that you are the super moderator, how can you even hint that EB3 vs EB2 reflect skill level of employee - don't you know by now that category is determined by "job's Requirement"?!!!!!!

    Also your stereotyping of all EB3s as 3 year Indian degree holder is the most unfortunate - I only hope that rest of the IV leadership is not made up of that crappy idea.

    For the record, I hold US Master's degree and am really offended by your comment and your view point.

    For the rest of the members reading this topic, this is exactly why being EB3 on IV is becoming more frustrating by the day... especially when the super mods posses such views...

    I am sorry forthis is wandering away from topic, but everyone including super mod mr. pascal has done that on this thread.

    :mad: :mad: :mad:

    Nss you really have some problem for which you should seek professional help. I am EB2, but I don't go around wining, why I am not EB1, yes the word is winning. I told you yesterday, we didn't make the system and yes I will take the credits for being EB2 because I worked diligently for it, taking student loans and working professional job.

    And that job title crap, take it somewhere else, because if that was the case there wouldn't be any Masters or PHD level education, neither there would be STEM. Give credits to our fellow members who come here and work diligently to gain higher education.

    And yes, I am sure lot of people will concur with me, the Indian body shop companies, who bring a lot of people from India, abuse the H1b system and file green cards. The EB3 category is a abyss of applications filed for these type of cases.

    Next time when you want to argue, keep your facts clear and handy.

    Lets drop this topic now, as it serves no purpose. The reason some threads focused on EB2 was because,

    1. Number of people stuck in EB2 is higher 2004-2006
    2. The back log can be cleared only when, the retrogression can end, I think the cake story didn't make sense to a lot of people.

    Lastly please don't post anymore EB2 or EB3, because personally I don't care about that and neither should anyone else. The only way we can bring about this change is through unity and working diligently towards our goals.

    All those people who are winning about EB2 or EB2, do some more constructive, how many people did you bring in to IV recently?
    How many friends and relatives you called yesterday?

    That is how we will will! don't let the divide and rule beat us again, we all read out history books.

    My request to administrator is to please bar membership to people who have such bad views, as it will not help to serve our purpose. NSS if you think we are creating a problem for you EB3 and not listening to you guys. You are more than happy to leave and fight your own battle.

    It is easier to complain, than to work patiently to bring upon a change. Don't break IV spirit.!

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  • unitednations
    02-05 09:34 AM
    While what you say is from a very neutral perspective as you see things from the other side of the wall, it may not be 100% true in what you think it is. These agencies or companies are a creation of the system, tons of people come from India to fill job positions and systems have been designed to accommodate that. Companies like Wipro, Infosys, etc... have HR people stamp their own H1b visa and send people in a bunch to the consulate for verification.
    Indian companies do not 'FAVOUR" Indian workers, but take advantage and try to "EXPLOIT" Indian workers to cater to businesses.
    The way the system works is, there is always available pool of talent for American businessess, these happen with rules being framed to accmomdate skilled workers.
    Just like how Jewish people good in Financial stuff, Indians have been immigrating in skilled worker category.

    While from your perspective you seem to think that it is some sort of Mafia trying to break rules and taking law in its own hands, favouring thier countrymen, it is because you don't have such a big infrastructure in China or Philippines etc... it is again the same Indian companies that are opening up branches in Singapore, Malaysia, Shangai, etc.. and reqruiting people from there too. Chinese consulting companies are now operating in full fledged manner these days and there seem to be companies that cater to Chinese Canadians looking for jobs in USA by providing them a TN visa letter and bringing them to US and place them in Client locations.

    I have nothing against the staffing agencies whatsoever. I actually like the business model. The laws are generally being followed. There is nothing wrong with it. However, I do ask many of the companies why they only have indian or south asians. Especially if they have indians coming from Germany or Singapore, etc. Common answer I get is that other people have too much restriction. Expectation would be they would have their own corporate apartment, no bench time; selection of projects and no travel. As you know this is a little difficult to accomodate for these companies.

    It generally is being clogged because it is getting around family base immigration. Although there is nothing wrong with that legally; it does hurt the people who cannot have the same accomodation. I know many, many people who have u.s. citizen brother; sponsors parents for greencards, rest of siblings come through staffing agency and then cousins get invited through h-1b and then spouse want to work and then another h-1b gets used. Eventully whole extended family base is here going through employment base when perhaps they should be going through family base. Other country people do not have such luxuries or companies looking to sponsor them specifically. Other country people generally went to school here and then went to h-1b and even then they have a difficult time getting it because they don't have the connection.

    Because of all these workarounds; it is going to cause a lot of people to be here from just certain countries. I firmly believe that lawmakers, uscis know this pretty well (i've actually seen it in an i-140 denial where brother was ceo and sponsoring his brother for greencard) and this is why they don't want to lift country caps. They understand why the visas are being dominated. Pretty tough to get them to change this, if this is the way they feel.

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  • tinamatthew
    07-20 08:00 PM

    #1 May 2001 - Come to US on H1B (California) I-94 valid till Nov 2003
    #2 Oct 2001 - Change employers and get a H1 transfer (California) New I-94 valid till Feb 2004
    #3 Nov 2002 - Fall in love with an American girl
    #4 Dec 2002 - Quit job and move to Michigan to be with girlfriend (Out of status)
    #5 March 2003 - Find job in MI, employers lawyer botches my H1 transfer / extension (Out of status)
    #6 October 2003 - Fall out with employer and quit.
    #7 November 2003 - Marry girlfriend (Out of status)
    #8 April 2004 - Wife files I-130/I-485/I-765 (AOS Pending status)
    #9 April 2004 - Find a new employer "X" and start working for him
    #10 June 2004 - Wife and I have irreconcilable differences and I separate, later file for divorce
    #11 June 2004 - "X" petitions for new H1B for me for FY-2005 starting in Oct.
    #12 July 2004 - leave US and go back to homeland, get new H1 visa stamped with expiration date of June 2007
    #13 Sept. 2004 - Come back to the US with new H1 visa stamp and get new I-94 (exp. June 2007) -----> Fresh start, eh ?
    #14 Nov 2004 - Divorce final
    #15 Dec 2004 - "X" files Labor RIR EB3. PD is Dec 2004
    #16 Dec 2005 - "X" files labor PERM EB2. PD is Dec 2005
    #17 Feb 2006 - PERM labor EB2 approved
    #18 March 2006 - Voluntarily went to local CIS office and withdrew old I-485. Proof of withdrawal obtained.
    #19 June 2006 - EB2 I-140 filed with copy of labor (Still pending) Obtained receipt
    #20 Oct 2006 - EB3 labor approved from backlog center
    #21 May 2007 - File for 7th year H1B extension
    #22 Jun 2007 - EB3 I-140 filed (Still pending). Obtained receipt
    #23 Jul 2007 - H1B Extension approved (new I-94 with expiration of Jun 2008)
    #24 Jul 2007 - Ready to file I-485 concurrent with EB3 I-140

    From february 2004 (expiry date of i-94 card) until april 1994 it looks like you accrued unlawful presence. The unlawful presence stopped when you filed the 485.

    The unlawful presence was wiped out when you left and re-entered usa (the 3 year bar didn't kick in because the unlawful presence was less then 180 days).

    You will be fine.

    Just be truthful that you filed 485 before; you had divorce and all the employers that you worked with. Only thing they can get you on is if you try to embelish or hide things even though they were forgiven when you left and re-entered.

    UN from what I read he was out of status from Mar 2003 to Apr 2004. Pls correct me if I am wrong

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  • gk_2000
    06-09 11:05 PM
    There is no doubt participation by all is very important. I have also emailed my regional politicians thru IV website and encourage everyone to do the same


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  • ezee
    08-12 03:52 PM
    I believe if the case has been pre-adjudicated then it shouldn't matter whats the RD and ND. They will probably approve based on Priority date. Earlier PDs get approved first. But who knows, its USCIS.

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  • realizeit
    08-21 04:30 PM
    R u sure about this? Where did u hear this from?

    Spillover mentioned in the "VISA BULLETIN FOR SEPTEMBER 2008" can only be used in the timeframe Sept-01-2008 till Sept-30-2008.


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  • alisa
    02-04 01:44 PM
    I totally agree with you my friend.

    I came across this website last year in November. I got active in December, and contributed, and tried to get active in my state chapter.

    When I come across posts that want to remove country caps, or some other measure that is going to be harmful to me, I have to stop and ask myself if I am shooting myself in the foot by supporting IV.

    Its not about whats fair. Nor about what common sense is. Its about self-interest.

    If we are increasing the size of the pie, then it benefits me (ROW) to be here. If we are to fight each other over crumbs, then it doesn't.


    what should prevail is a matter of perspective. If you are an Indian then skill should prevail, if you are not, then of course it is the other way around

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  • WeldonSprings
    08-21 06:20 PM
    Also, you mentioned in one of your earlier posts- That you have received 3 EAD cards for 2 people!!!:D

    Originally Posted by cableching
    Today I rceived someone else's EAD. We received three EADs, one each for me and my wife and another adressed to me with EAD inside being some one else's.
    Weired ways of USCIS!!!!

    I shall call USCIS and notify them of this.

    All I did was posting it in August EB2 India/China approvals thread about what I read and heard from an IO. Just to inform people. This visas are not available only for India/China and not for other countries????

    If people think it is not appropriate, the admins can delete all the related posts and threads.


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  • amitjoey
    02-02 03:35 PM
    Visas are divided equally -country wise quota - no country can have more than 7% of worldwide quota. Countries like India, China, Mexico, Phillipines that have more professionals in the USA. So these countries get retrogressed. EB(Employment based) greencard applicants from these countries have to wait.
    Rest of the world (ROW) EB2 (ROW) do not have to wait, their dates are current.

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  • raysaikat
    04-06 10:49 AM
    > you will file with all the available supporting documents and you will make it > appear as if you indeed are filling under Master's quota. Your application
    > will have insufficient doccumentation and they will raise a query on your
    > app. and by the time this happens you can hope that you will receive your
    > degree, or you will delay it till the maximum possible extent and will send
    > them back with supporting Masters Degree. Again these are just my
    > thinking you might want to validate with some professionals as whether or
    > not this logic stands a chance.

    As a general rule, any additional evidence you provide must prove that you had the right status (in this case, your M.S.) at the time of filing.


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  • Sherman_tribiani
    09-08 02:25 PM
    My other 15 replies to appropriate responses are forth coming but to this Macaca: This is a loser talk and thats why we should make sure folks like you donot get your work permits.
    Who asked you? Are we are asking for your permission, jackass? If the 75% of the companies were also started by us, then, parasites like you will leach off us. Then, who will hire morons like you?

    Who cares about your admiration for leadership qualities? Why, does that sharpen your skills as a kissass to your boss?

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  • unitednations
    02-04 12:39 PM
    Mr Unitednation takes the advantages of ignorance (in immgration law) of most of the forum members and spreading wrong information in both web sites.

    Of course he is very informative, however he is very biased and having wrong openion that EB3 India has stolen EB3_ROW number in previous years as he belongs to ROW. He wrongly assumes that till EB3-ROW becomes current EB2 & EB3-India will not see any movement. He thinks no one knows the rules, laws ect..and he is only one knows everything. The actual fact is most peoples have been doing research on retrogression like him last two years and not having enough time to reply his post. To fuel his openion DOS is violating the section 202 of INA and no one cares about this including IV core team.

    If you want to know true color of Unitednation visit this site.

    If you want to know how unused visanumbers suppose to work as per the law, visit this site.

    So please take a crack at how it works. Above posting is right from the horses mouth. As I challenged people if they think DOS/USCIS is breaking the law by going vertical instead of horizontal then they should contact them or sue them. However, no one has been willing to do this.


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  • sunnydham
    07-17 11:21 PM
    Dear Core Group,
    Thanks a ton for your persistent and superlative efforts in overturning this debacle.We will forever be grateful for your help and organizing continuing support to this cause.This is a truly combined superhuman achievement.
    Salute all of you guys.
    Sandeep :)

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  • jetflyer
    04-15 09:40 PM
    Another US MS educated with trash mind and mouth

    Oh never insulted MC for his interest. I just said that he was interested.


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  • potatoeater
    05-10 02:08 PM
    I am reviving this old thread because it was created by me, and it is highly relevant now. I predicted last month that EB2-I will become "U" soon, and it has happened (almost).

    The quick way out of this mess is to ask CIS to move subst labor folks back in the queue. That will ensure that both EB3-I and EB2-I will move forward to July 07. Most of the labor substitution took place in that month itself.

    This is an admin fix and does not require any new legislature. This is an idea whose time has come.

    The intent of a subst labor was to save the company time and money for obtaining another labor for the same position in case the original beneficiary drops out. Remember, labor was a company petition, not employee petition. The companies still would have wanted it even if it does not retain its original PD.

    The basic thrust behind the idea of changing the rules of PD allocation for subst cases is to push forward PD to july 07 level. Most of the subst happened in that month. we are not asking subst labor folks to quit the queue, just asking them to move behind.

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  • BECsufferer
    08-13 07:10 AM
    I agree farming is fun! I did farming when I was young back in INDIA!

    Recently I toured entire US except a few states by road. I saw people doing farming in huge lands like other professions. I saw one community from india owning lots of motels/hotels! To my surprise 20/25 motels we stayed were owned by people of indian origin and most were immigrants.
    To all who claim to be stuck in GC queue I strongly suggest a US road trip. It will show you parts of USA which you have not seen as well as relax ur mind.

    Agree... and this will also increase your awarness. It's a beautifull country and you will enjoy the diversity and resourcefulness. Go mid-west!


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  • truthinspector
    07-06 01:00 PM
    This is by no means Gandhigiri. Most of the other messages are negative too.
    I wonder what this is going to fetch. Plus the idea that USCIS is going to call up CNN once they receive 50 flower bouquets is hard to believe, unless CNN goes flower-sniffing ;-) at government offices regularly.

    Thats a pretty harsh message in my books...

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  • bugsbunny
    04-13 03:27 PM
    Can we request for a bill which would:

    1.Grant GC to all EB 2 / 3 class pimary applicants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay in the USA without any criminal record.

    2. Provide Citizeship to all EB primary applicants who have completed 12 years of continuous stay without any criminal record

    For 1. Lets aim for 5 years wait and then GC for all...since lawmakers keep using a 5 years wait timeline for various such bills they themselves propose

    I don't think point 2 is the requirements for citizenship are different from GC and also may not be what everyone wants.

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  • reedandbamboo
    09-15 10:52 PM
    I sent out a couple of emails today. Will mail out the seven letters and posters to the seven recipients tomorrow. I was busy with my AP and EAD renewals today.

    08-14 02:13 PM
    To NSC.

    No LUD on my I140. It remains as is.

    04-15 10:47 AM
    People who are going to benefit by this will support this. Others oppose.
    I believe you belong to latter.

    One thing to remember is this provision helps STEM grads irrespective of their EB-class.

    legal speak: right now law does exist. F1 to GC would be illegal. This provision is to make the conversion legal

    plain speak: look beyond your own situation. Since you are not going to benefit directly, does not mean you stand against it.

    Lastly, everybody's parents don't have so much money like you think. People do get 13% student loans in India to fund their studies.

    Changing F1 to GC law to make it legal has as much chance as getting law change to not include dependents. I would rather support the latter then support F1 to GC law change

    I do look beyond my own situation and thats why i support current spillover rules and filing 485 without current PD issue even though it does not help me directly in any way what soever and if fact is dterimental to my EB3 case.

    Can you say the same ? C
    Can you support an argument to give 50 k dv visa to badly retrogressed category irrespective of preference category?
    Fact is You are the one who cannot see beyond your own selfish needs and you are accusing me of the same thing you are doing

    As far as i know the whole MS F1 visa is a big scam and loophole to enter us and stay here when you are not supposed to and that is the loophole that needs to be closed first instesad of worrying about fruad porting and EB1 fraud. Closing thsi student GC loophole will clear up the whole EB retrogression mess